tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post3702333341752440196..comments2023-10-24T11:26:21.560-04:00Comments on Tribe Fan in Yankeeland: Battered and frustrated, Tribe heads into break with lots to doRon Vallohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01515792183023966479noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-82105679365641981452009-07-19T12:20:50.089-04:002009-07-19T12:20:50.089-04:00moose said
so back from the all star break
One g...moose said <br /><br />so back from the all star break<br />One game looked good but the rest is back to normal. 70 games and counting. 36-56 so if they play 500 (fat chance) they would be 71-91<br />I dont think so - 100 is looking good.<br /><br />I went to the game saturday night for beach night. Eight hits one run. And Franklin Guttierez looks like an all star. Anothe ex indian thriving away from wedge. So the trade deadline is12 days away. I look for Pavano and Garko to go. The fans dont want to see Toka Ohma pitch anymore. Let Huff, Laffey, and Sowers take their lumps. Don't push westbrook back - there is no reason. Peralta may go - he needs a change of scenary.<br />The bullpen - other than wood - some folks may take a look at Betancourt. The indains have a lot of september games who is going to come.<br /><br />Let the kids play - laporta, brantley, marte etc.<br /><br />I look at all the other teams in the league and they all have good youth and pitching. This franchise has nothing in the minors. Shapiro and his scouting team have messed up badly. Wedge needs to go - no one respects him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-79098612518159671742009-07-16T11:43:44.019-04:002009-07-16T11:43:44.019-04:00There's more guys on this team with value than...There's more guys on this team with value than just Lee and Martinez....<br /><br /><br />Victor has 330 at-bats this year.....<br /><br /><br />In Garko's last 330 at-bats (dating back to mid-August last year), he has a higher batting average (hitting over .300), higher OBP (.384), an identical SLG (.485)higher OPS, more HRs (15), more RBIs (67), and more hits (100) than Victor Martinez.<br /><br />He also did that averaging fewer at-bats per game (3.2 vs 3.8).<br /><br /><br /><br />People underrate Garko.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-35072541336163078502009-07-13T18:39:28.307-04:002009-07-13T18:39:28.307-04:00I agree this team needs about 10-12 new faces on t...I agree this team needs about 10-12 new faces on the 25 man roster next year (at a minimum). The only problem with not trading Lee or Victor is that those are the only two guys that could fetch anything in return. The rest of the guys mentioned as disposable could only fetch spare parts and minor leaguers that have 'upside' 2-3 years down the road. The latter is better than keeping 'the same old, same old' however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-71704733148838977582009-07-13T17:13:43.129-04:002009-07-13T17:13:43.129-04:00Literally this team makes me want to vomit. It'...Literally this team makes me want to vomit. It's like watching a train wreck. It's every year with every Cleveland team. Oh well...But Hey, Wedge likes our lineup right now and wants consistency...good grief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-63775980077853288862009-07-13T16:01:44.424-04:002009-07-13T16:01:44.424-04:00Tribe traded Gutierrez cause he had more trade val...Tribe traded Gutierrez cause he had more trade value than Francisco. The Mariners came out and said they had no interest in Francisco. With LaPorta/Crowe/Brantly for LF (plus Weglarz), getting what you could for Gut wasn't a bad move (though I hated to see him go). He needs to be playing CF to get full value of his skills. Wasn't gonna do that in Cleveland.<br /><br /><br /><br />Brantley should not see Cleveland at all this year. He's young and really struggled at times in AAA. He's not gonna be on the team in 2010 to start the year, so leave him down. Send him to the AFL if you want him to get more work in, but Tribe doesn't tend to bring guys up to sit on the bench. Makes no sense.<br /><br /><br />LaPorta should be up and playing LF. Victor will start 70-80 games at 1B next year. You want LaPorta in those games still. Let Garko sit during those ones then. LaPorta should be starting everyday in LF. Francisco should be a backup and start in CF when Grady needs a rest.<br /><br /><br />We should see this later this month though.<br /><br />Rondon will be up in August provided he keeps pitching well in Columbus. He's only at 72 innings for the season. The Indians want him at 160 at least after throwing 145 and 136 the previous two seasons. He'll have to average 8 innings a start to get that in AAA, and that ain't happening. He's already on the 40-man roster, so it won't affect his option clock at all (this year already counts no matter if he's brought up or not).<br /><br /><br />Marte is a minor league free agent at the end of the year....he's as good as gone.<br /><br /><br />Also, if you're gonna bring someone up, it'll be Jordan Brown. Natural LF/RF that plays 1B as well. Having a fantatic year in AAA. A bit like a lefty-Garko. Will make a great bench guy next year.<br /><br /><br />Not a fan of dealing Peralta. As I said, Marte is a free agent and he ain't sticking around. Hodges has been hurt for much of the year. He'll need more time in AAA...plus he's god-awful defensively.<br /><br /><br />So unless you want to start Gimenez or Barfield at 3B next year....you really have to keep Peralta around.<br /><br /><br />Plus, if Wedge is gone, I think a lot of his attitude problems will go away.<br /><br />Need to bring in a guy like Hargrove (not sayin him necessarily, but a guy like him). One that can handle personalities like that. Hargrove did great with Ramirez, who reminds me a lot of Peralta. Ramirez hated the media back then. Also came into camp out of shape a few times. Looked extremely lazy in the field....but did play ok at times (nearly 20 outfield assists one year).<br /><br />Remind you of someone? Peralta can come in out of weight and really looks lazy in the field. But he does make all the routine plays.<br /><br />He's not the type of player you want around with Wedge.....<br /><br />I'd rather get rid of Wedge though.<br /><br /><br />Lee, Garko, Barfield, Peralta, and Shoppach all have had issues with Wedge....and that's just what we know of. Then the old ones were Phillips, Bradley (though he doesn't really count, lol), and Gerut.<br /><br /><br />I even think Victor isn't seeing eye to eye with him fully anymore.<br /><br /><br /><br />Choo and Cabrera are the only offensive players that have really grown under Wedge. Lee is the only pitcher....and that was after a major meltdown in the middle.<br /><br /><br />If Wedge can't handle his players, or develop them....what's his purpose?<br /><br /><br />He should go before any player is traded that's not a free agent. See how things go without him....I bet you like the results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-68579859034063649372009-07-12T18:50:15.124-04:002009-07-12T18:50:15.124-04:00Most teams get a 3 day all star break - the tribe ...Most teams get a 3 day all star break - the tribe decided to make it a 4 Day break !!!<br /><br />embarassing -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-27088267695551127212009-07-12T17:58:49.668-04:002009-07-12T17:58:49.668-04:00As for Guttierez, looks like another player who ha...As for Guttierez, looks like another player who has figured it out AFTER leaving the guidance and coaching of Wedgie and staff.Ron Vallohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515792183023966479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-45084719466633112102009-07-12T17:46:41.388-04:002009-07-12T17:46:41.388-04:00Well, I mentioned every guy that should be shopped...Well, I mentioned every guy that should be shopped. Obviously there wouldn't be takers on every one. Nor could the Tribe trade every one, or they wouldn't be able to field a team.<br /><br />I meant to indicate who I thought should be actively shopped or be made expendable if someone wants them. <br /><br />To do it all would require about 7 trades, which obviously is just silly.Ron Vallohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515792183023966479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666431387884521496.post-9905521705058079042009-07-12T14:05:32.831-04:002009-07-12T14:05:32.831-04:00wow - some analysis and recommendations. Must be s...wow - some analysis and recommendations. Must be something in the family genes as I agree with most of it.<br /><br />First one more strike for shapiro and wedge - looks like we kept the wrong OF - francisco instead of Guttierrez. Man he is tearing it up in Seattle. <br /><br />Now your list - it is easy to say get rid of this guy or that guy but who is going to trade for them.<br /><br />You got more guys to dump than keep. I agree Francisco, peralta, and garko should probably go. I think peralta and garko want to go and have had enough of wedge. Carroll is a wedge type player and will probably stay. Pavano and betancourt could go cause of salaries. I think Pavano has some inning clause in his contract. <br /><br />Smith has been a big disappointment. Wood if the price is right - why not except then we have no closer again. <br /><br />shoppach, abreu, veres, ohka - would ANYONE take these guys if we dropped them.Its a shame when 25 % of your roster no one wants.<br /><br />Yes let brantley and laporta play - we got nothing to loose <br /><br />take care - mooseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com